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Bug 1611508
Summary: | network-scripts shouldn't depend on initscripts | ||
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Product: | [Fedora] Fedora | Reporter: | Peter Robinson <pbrobinson> |
Component: | initscripts | Assignee: | David Kaspar // Dee'Kej <deekej> |
Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa> |
Severity: | unspecified | Docs Contact: | |
Priority: | unspecified | ||
Version: | rawhide | CC: | deekej, john.j5live, jonathan, kdudka, lnykryn, zbyszek |
Target Milestone: | --- | Keywords: | Reopened |
Target Release: | --- | ||
Hardware: | Unspecified | ||
OS: | Unspecified | ||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | If docs needed, set a value | |
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Last Closed: | 2018-08-02 11:08:28 UTC | Type: | Bug |
Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
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oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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Bug Depends On: | |||
Bug Blocks: | 1269538 |
Description
Peter Robinson
2018-08-02 09:26:37 UTC
(In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #0) > In the thread [1] about removing unnecessary dependency on initscripts on > devel@ there's request not to depend on it but network-scripts still does. > It should be install-able without it. On a minimal install it's the only > thing that now pulls in initscripts. It would be nice to be able to drop the > legacy. > > [1] > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > message/MRI2HG2WTDJ2BGZTZMZ3JLUMKGEFWM6P/ Right now, the initscripts provide the /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions file, which is necessary for network-scripts to function properly. But I too was previously thinking if we could somehow deal with this, so there's no dependency at all. When I think about it, it could be possible to write the specfile in a way that both initscripts & network-scripts provide the same file. I will discuss it more with my colleague. Thanks for raising your concerns. Oh, I didn't realize that network-scripts have its own init script (network), and for that we need the initscripts package to function properly anyway. Sorry, this can't be fixed... (In reply to David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] from comment #2) > Oh, I didn't realize that network-scripts have its own init script > (network), and for that we need the initscripts package to function properly > anyway. Sorry, this can't be fixed... That's legacy, shouldn't that just go into the initscripts package with initscripts then depending on network-scripts? Something like: diff --git a/initscripts.spec b/initscripts.spec index 43e33c2..4407ab4 100644 --- a/initscripts.spec +++ b/initscripts.spec @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ Requires: procps-ng Requires: setup Requires: systemd Requires: util-linux +Requires: network-scripts = %{version}-%{release} Requires(pre): shadow-utils Requires(post): coreutils @@ -90,7 +91,6 @@ other legacy tools & utilities. %package -n network-scripts Summary: Legacy scripts for manipulating of network devices -Requires: %{name}%{?_isa} = %{version}-%{release} %shared_requirements @@ -105,9 +105,6 @@ Requires: procps-ng Requires: sed Requires: systemd -Requires(post): chkconfig -Requires(preun): chkconfig - Requires(post): %{_sbindir}/update-alternatives Requires(postun): %{_sbindir}/update-alternatives @@ -278,6 +275,7 @@ fi %ghost %config(noreplace, missingok) %verify(not md5 size mtime) %{_sysconfdir}/rc.d/rc.local %{_sysconfdir}/rc.d/init.d/functions +%{_sysconfdir}/rc.d/init.d/network # RC symlinks: %{_sysconfdir}/rc[0-6].d @@ -307,7 +305,6 @@ fi %doc doc/examples/ %dir %{_sysconfdir}/sysconfig/network-scripts -%{_sysconfdir}/rc.d/init.d/network %{_sysconfdir}/sysconfig/network-scripts/* %config(noreplace) %{_sysconfdir}/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo I don't see the point in this change. network-scripts are useless without the initscripts, since nothing would setup the network on boot. And network initscripts is useless without the rest of network-scripts. (In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #0) > It would be nice to be able to drop the > legacy. Drop the network-script, for example, systemd-networkd is installed in minimal installation as well ;-) (In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #3) > (In reply to David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] from comment #2) > > Oh, I didn't realize that network-scripts have its own init script > > (network), and for that we need the initscripts package to function properly > > anyway. Sorry, this can't be fixed... > > That's legacy, shouldn't that just go into the initscripts package with > initscripts then depending on network-scripts? The initscripts package was split to have a clear separation between initscripts and network-scripts packages. Moving 'network' back into initscripts would just go against what we were trying to achieve in the first place - which is that network-scripts can be uninstalled easily when needed, and that network-scripts shouldn't be installed by default anymore. We would like to guide people to switch to NetworkManager. (In reply to Lukáš Nykrýn from comment #5) > I don't see the point in this change. network-scripts are useless without > the initscripts, since nothing would setup the network on boot. And network > initscripts is useless without the rest of network-scripts. > > (In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #0) > > It would be nice to be able to drop the > > legacy. > > Drop the network-script, for example, systemd-networkd is installed in > minimal installation as well ;-) Doesn't NetworkManager use them? systemd-networkd doesn't do wifi and numerous other options.....
> The initscripts package was split to have a clear separation between
> initscripts and network-scripts packages. Moving 'network' back into
> initscripts would just go against what we were trying to achieve in the
> first place - which is that network-scripts can be uninstalled easily when
> needed, and that network-scripts shouldn't be installed by default anymore.
> We would like to guide people to switch to NetworkManager.
I was under the assumption that NetworkManager used a bunch of the network-scripts components in it's support, looking now it might be that teamd is the offender in that stack.
(In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #7) > (In reply to Lukáš Nykrýn from comment #5) > > I don't see the point in this change. network-scripts are useless without > > the initscripts, since nothing would setup the network on boot. And network > > initscripts is useless without the rest of network-scripts. > > > > (In reply to Peter Robinson from comment #0) > > > It would be nice to be able to drop the > > > legacy. > > > > Drop the network-script, for example, systemd-networkd is installed in > > minimal installation as well ;-) > > Doesn't NetworkManager use them? nope > systemd-networkd doesn't do wifi and numerous other options..... Network-script can't do wifi either. Unless you use WEP, but in such case, you have a bigger problem elsewhere. > I was under the assumption that NetworkManager used a bunch of the > network-scripts components in it's support, looking now it might be that > teamd is the offender in that stack. I think these days you can also use teaming just with NM without network-scrips. Generally, we are trying to find any use-cases that work just with network-scripts and pass them to the NM team.
> I think these days you can also use teaming just with NM without
> network-scrips. Generally, we are trying to find any use-cases that work
> just with network-scripts and pass them to the NM team.
Maybe, but it still depends on it:
$ rpm -e network-scripts
error: Failed dependencies:
network-scripts is needed by (installed) teamd-1.27-8.fc29.aarch64
$ rpm -ql teamd|grep network-scripts
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown-Team
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown-TeamPort
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-Team
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-TeamPort
So likely they should be split into a sub package with the dep on network-scripts so the overall dep chain can go away if that's the case
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