that happens without type=forking and it is not necessary if Before/After are already ordered correctly

Aug  4 23:51:43 testserver clamav-milter[962]: ERROR: Failed to initiate streaming/fdpassing
Aug  4 23:51:43 testserver clamav-milter[962]: WARNING: No clamd server appears to be available

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(In reply to Harald Reindl from comment #0)
> Type=simple is completly un-trustable because it returns immediatly and the
> clamav-milter don't work if the clamd service is not available and don't
> recover which leads in temporary reject all messages by postfix 
> 
> 3 options:
> 
> * fix the milter so it recovers if clamd is later ready for connections
> * change clamd to Type=forking
> * add a ExecStopPost which tests and waits until it is ready for connections
> 
> for option 3 you may look at the MariaDB/MySQL service
> 
> see also that bugreprot in conext of clamav
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1126595#c1

I changed clamd to Type=forking

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(In reply to Sergio Monteiro Basto from comment #4) 
> I changed clamd to Type=forking

Seems a regression see [1]

[1]
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/clamav/c/8e91346cb14057357c325449041edea8df06b1e5?branch=master

who is that idiot and why don't he read the fucking systemd manual?

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html
If set to simple (the default if neither Type= nor BusName=, but ExecStart= are specified), it is expected that the process configured with ExecStart= is the main process of the service. In this mode, if the process offers functionality to other processes on the system, its communication channels should be installed before the daemon is started up (e.g. sockets set up by systemd, via socket activation), as systemd will immediately proceed starting follow-up units

how does that braindead fool imagine that services which use clamd smell that they have wait to start? and hence i overwride 99% of all unit-files in /etc/systemd/system/ because too many maintainers don't have the slightest clue what they are doing

@Harald I really don't understand why your account aren't suspend yet , the author of commit is there , so don't insult him neither anyone, neither use offensive language , if not I will have to report you . 

I think is about : 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/clamav-0.99.2-17.fc27#comment-720009

@Sergio - just because one guy did a override of the originally broken service which now needs to be corrected someone goes out and change the type back without any additional comment in bodhi?

frankly for many things i don't care about Fedora packages at all for years because when i override https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/clamav-0.99.2-17.fc27#comment-720009 can't happen because i cloe the whole unit in /etc/systemd/system or in most cases fork the whole packages because i am tired of such long response times and discussions at all

the "--foreground=yes" is just plain wrong with Type=forking - that's it

don't get me wrong but i did expect a maintainer touching something to try if it works at all and then that won't have hapüpended - the proper fix anyways is "Type=forking" and remove "--foreground=yes" from ExecStart and not roll back to Type=simple

that's BTW not clamd specific - "--foreground=yes" or similar called params disable the forking behavior from the daemon at start which is required by Type=simple

I'm fine with going back to Type=forking and removing --foreground=yes, I was just trying to fix it now starting with how it is configured.

it's that simple for every unit out there:

Type=simple
ExecStart=binary --foreground=yes

Type=forking
ExecStart=binary --daemonize=yes

/usr/sbin/clamd -c /etc/clamd.d/%i.conf --daemonize=yes

/usr/sbin/clamd: unrecognized option `--daemonize=yes'
ERROR: Unknown option passed
ERROR: Can't parse command line options

Hi, thanks for the testing please can you edit again /usr/lib/systemd/system/clamd@.service and try with [1] and confirm that is working for you after run [2] , It seems that is working for me now. Thanks

[1]

[Unit]
Description = clamd scanner (%i) daemon
After = syslog.target nss-lookup.target network.target

[Service]
Type = forking
ExecStart = /usr/sbin/clamd -c /etc/clamd.d/%i.conf 
Restart = on-failure

[2]

systemctl daemon-reload 
systemctl start clamd

That works for me.  Presumably we should change clamav-milter.systemd to forking (and drop foreground=yes) for the same reason as well.  I've tested that as well as seems to work fine.

OK thanks for testing and my sincere apologies for the bad behavior of Harald.
I'm going update package now , more 355 emails of spam o'matic (I'm fixing 9 bugs now)

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