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Bug 1157685 - Anaconda does not identify Workstation Live Beta image as neither Beta, nor Workstation
Summary: Anaconda does not identify Workstation Live Beta image as neither Beta, nor W...
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: distribution
Version: 21
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
unspecified
unspecified
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Václav Pavlín
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
URL:
Whiteboard: RejectedBlocker
Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2014-10-27 13:50 UTC by Kamil Páral
Modified: 2015-11-05 11:00 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Bug Fix
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Environment:
Last Closed: 2015-11-05 11:00:50 UTC
Type: Bug
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server DVD welcome screen (99.54 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 13:50 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
server DVD main hub (73.02 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 13:51 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
workstation Live welcome screen (96.94 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 13:51 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
workstation Live main hub (54.62 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 13:52 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
F20 Beta DVD welcome screen (98.47 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 14:07 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
F20 Beta Live welcome screen (151.93 KB, image/png)
2014-10-27 14:08 UTC, Kamil Páral 		no flags Details
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Description Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:50:11 UTC 
Description of problem:
When I boot Server DVD/netinst Beta RC1, anaconda tells me that I booted a) Server product b) Beta version. This is both displayed on the welcome screen and the main hub screen. See screenshots. (The underscore looks a bit unprofessional).

When I boot Workstation Live Beta RC1, anaconda doesn't tell me any of that. There is no Workstation product identification, the welcome screen says "Welcome to Fedora 21". Also there is no Beta version information. On the other hand, there is big red "PRE-RELEASE/TESTING" in the upper right corner on both screens.

It's true that the pre-release warning informs the user sufficiently that this is not the final product (together with the Timbuktu dialog), however, it's quite inconvenient to not know which exact pre-release milestone this is. Also, since we're now productized, it seems the product specification should be there. Otherwise it appears to be some generic Fedora installer.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
F21 Beta RC1
anaconda-21.48.12-1.fc21.x86_64
fedora-release-21-0.16.noarch
fedora-release-workstation-21-0.16.noarch
Comment 1 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:50:53 UTC 
Created attachment 951008 [details]
server DVD welcome screen
Comment 2 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:51:14 UTC 
Created attachment 951009 [details]
server DVD main hub
Comment 3 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:51:41 UTC 
Created attachment 951010 [details]
workstation Live welcome screen
Comment 4 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:52:00 UTC 
Created attachment 951011 [details]
workstation Live main hub
Comment 5 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 13:55:15 UTC 
This might fail https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Self-identification :
" Any component which prominently identifies a Fedora release version number, code name or milestone (Alpha, Beta, Final) must do so correctly. "

or not. Proposing for discussion whether this is just nit-picking or whether we want to have it fixed before releasing Beta.

Also, it might be a good idea to discuss whether "product" should be included in that criterion as well.
Comment 6 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 14:07:36 UTC 
Created attachment 951013 [details]
F20 Beta DVD welcome screen

For comparison, I managed to find how F20 Beta looked like (thanks to YouTube, because it's extremely hard to find the actual iso images anymore).

As you can see, the missing milestone problem is not new, it was present in F20 Beta Live as well. So we might want to increase our standards, but the problem is not a recent regression :)

The missing product issue is new though, of course.
Comment 7 Kamil Páral 2014-10-27 14:08:00 UTC 
Created attachment 951014 [details]
F20 Beta Live welcome screen
Comment 8 Adam Williamson 2014-10-27 15:10:09 UTC 
I'd be -1 blocker on this. The criterion is actually quite carefully worded not to require that a milestone be shown, only that *if* it is shown, it be correct.

I think if there was no pre-release notice anywhere and no Timbuktu screen we might want to worry, but I'm not that bothered about the top-right corner text if the other bits are there.
Comment 9 Adam Williamson 2014-10-27 16:50:52 UTC 
Discussed at 2014-10-27 blocker review meeting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-10-27/f21-blocker-review.2014-10-27-16.01.log.txt . Rejected as a blocker by consensus along the lines of c#8 - everyone agreed the criterion is clearly worded not to cover a case like this (and I asserted that's actually what it's meant to do, to the best of my memory). We feel there is enough identification of this as a Beta/pre-release that it's not a release-blocking problem that it isn't indicated in this particular place.
Comment 10 David Shea 2014-10-29 18:08:38 UTC 
The Workstation Live Beta iimage does not identify itself as either Beta or Workstation.

On the Server images this information comes from the /.buildstamp file, but there's no information of that sort on the live images. This is the kind of thing a product.img is for.
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Comment 12 Kamil Páral 2015-11-05 11:00:50 UTC 
There's no point in dealing with install images for F21 now.
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